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Because big things matter. But so does the laundry.

Releasing Tuesdays, in this first season we’ll discuss how you can belong to a place.

Expect small take-aways each episode to help you connect the dots between things that matter and your everyday life.

Show Notes - Season One

Episode 1: Trailer

Episode 2: Alan Noble on your digital life (released 11/6)

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In the first episode of “The Finding Holy Podcast,” I sit down to talk with Alan Noble, author of the book Disruptive Witness. We talk about everything from Twitter, Instagramming your hike, to best practices online, his book, ironing, dressing nicely and doing the laundry.

Connect the dots between the things that matter and your everyday, holy life: 3 questions for you as you consider how to interact in online spaces:

  1. What are my triggers? (Do I go to Twitter when I’m angry, sad or lonely? What are other ways I might deal with my emotions?)

  2. What is a healthy amount of time to be online? (And, when am I consciously turning off?)

  3. What practices might I take up to engage with God, myself, or others this week? (Try taking a walk like Alan).


Link to purchase Disruptive Witness:

Christ and Pop Culture

Alan’s website:

Twitter: @TheAlanNoble

Episode 3: Jen Pollock Michel on finding home in a big city (released 11/13)


Award-winning author Jen Pollock Michel and I talk about how you can belong to a place when you’re an expat, our longings for home, and her amazing laundry song. You won’t want to miss this conversation about the incarnation, owning dogs, and how we belong to our places.

We want the Finding Holy Podcast to help connect the dots between the things that matter and your everyday, holy life. Here’s one small step to take to do just that:

Take a walk. With or without a dog or kids. This allows you to meet neighbors and begin to hear their stories. So schedule a walk in your neighborhood this week. Simply start paying attention to the needs around you. As you walk more regularly, you’ll meet people, see needs to meet, and make time and space to pray and reflect.


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Link to purchase Teach Us to Want:

Link to purchase Keeping Place:

Jen’s website:

Twitter: @jenpmichel


“We can actually look at salvation itself as an act of housekeeping.” -@jenpmichel on home, Toronto, laundry and paradox for the #findingholy podcast with @aahales:

Episode 4: Bronwyn Lea on Staying Put (released 11/20)

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In Episode 4, I sit down with Bronwyn Lea. Bronwyn Lea is originally from South Africa and brings a unique perspective to American listeners, not just on America, but on the way the places we live shape our lives.

Here’s why you should listen: In this interview we talk about not simply consuming our places but belonging to them and what that looks like in everything from school choices, to choosing to stay put in our local churches.

Bronwyn Lea is an author, speaker, activist, and most recently, editorial curator for Propel Sophia. She loves Jesus, puns, her home country of South Africa, her adopted country of the US, her endlessly patient husband, her three goofy kids, wisdom and justice, seeing women thrive in the Kingdom, and quality ice-cream (in no particular order).


As a response to the interview, I simply invite you to pray. As you pray consider these questions from Bronwyn:

Can you start by processing things with God in private? Tell God what I’m sad and mad about. 

Is this between just God and me? Do I need to speak out? Do I need to be quiet? 

Secondly, I'd love to hear if you took one small step towards being hospitable with your neighbors. Try something like a Trader Joe's Open House. Tell me all about it. 


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Bronwyn's website: 

Twitter: @BronLeaTweets

Propel Sophia:


“Choosing to stay has sometimes looked like what love has looked like.” @bronleatweets on #FindingHolyPodcast. Listen here:

Episode 5: Russ Ramsey on How Story Forms Us (released 11/27)

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My guest for Episode 5 is Russ Ramsey. Russ Ramsey is the pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church Cool Springs in Nashville, Tennessee, where he lives with his wife and four children. He grew up in the fields of Indiana and studied at Taylor University and Covenant Theological Seminary (MDiv, ThM). Russ is the author of the Retelling the Story Series (IVP, 2018) and Struck: One Christian’s Reflections on Encountering Death (IVP, 2017)

In Episode 5, we talk about the best burrito restaurant in Nashville and how to creatively engage social media through pursuing beauty. We also chat about our actual places, and a few small steps to jog our imaginations as Christians -- and, of course, I ask about his laundry routine.

Russ has some great tips to share about how to approach scripture this Advent season.


As your small practical step, I’d simply encourage you to try something this Advent season a little differently. Let's jog our imaginations.

--Take a different route home
-- Frequent a local business
--Engage scripture differently
--Read a gospel through the Advent season
--Try to get your laundry into the basket (Just kidding!)

Here are Russ’s tips for engaging scripture:

Read a portion of scripture beginning to end. Read aloud. Listen to scripture audio recordings.
Engage your imagination: look for details in what you read.
Scripture gives us wisdom, not necessarily answers. It forms the way you think. How are you formed as you read?

Russ’s website:
Christ Presbyterian Church Cool Springs:
Twitter: @russramsey
Baja Burrito (best burritos in Nashville):
Link to purchase The Advent of the Lamb of God:
Link to purchase The Mission of the Body of Christ:
Link to purchase The Passion of the King of Glory:
Link to purchase Struck:


“When you see social media as a tool...when it’s not the main thing, then you can use it for good.” @russramsey on social media #artwednesday #findingholypodcast

“Story is a trojan horse for truth.” @russramsey on #findingholypodcast

“We hide scripture in the heart by way of imagination.” @russramsey on #findingholypodcast


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Episode 6: Micha Boyett On Learning to See How Jesus Sees (released 12/3)


You’ll love this interview with author and activist Micha Boyett. She and her family live in San Francisco, CA.

Micha Boyett, author of Found, talks motherhood, raising a son with Down Syndrome, and what it looks like to be a good neighbor in San Francisco. Don’t miss her helpful tips on practicing to see the way Jesus sees -- even when you’re in the school pick-up line.

Here’s a bit more about our guest: Micha Boyett is a poet, activist and author of the book, Found: A Story of Questions, Grace and Everyday Prayer. She has an MFA and writes on spiritual formation, down syndrome and motherhood. She hosts The Lucky Few podcast which focuses on changing the narrative about Down Syndrome.


It’s Micha’s practice. → Create a visual clue for the change you want to see.

Try grabbing a sticky note right now. Write a word, phrase, or portion of scripture that you want to meditate on. (For me, I’m putting a bright pink sticky note on the fridge that says “breathe.” so that when the noise of four small kids gets too much, I’ll remember that breathing is one way we rewire those neurons)!

So grab a sticky note, put on a word or phrase and put it where you’ll see it. Let me know how it goes!

It’s one small way to begin to take the ideas we want to embody -- like peace, love, and kindness -- and begin to make a practice of them.


Micha’s website:

The Lucky Few Podcast:

Twitter: @michaboyett

Link to purchase Micha’s book, Found:

Link to purchase No Drama Discipline:

Link to purchase The Whole-Brained Child:


Listen in to this episode on the gift of Down Syndrome and paying attention: @michaboyett on @aahales’ #FindingHolyPodcast

“Spiritual discipline is sometimes about retraining our brains.” —@michaboyett on #findingholypodcast with @aahales:

“The smallest choices are usually the ones that effect you the most.” —@michaboyett on #findingholypodcast with @aahales:

“Spiritual discipline is always going to be a practice.” —@michaboyett on #findingholypodcast with @aahales:

“Thanksgiving is always the heart of change.” —@michaboyett on #findingholypodcast with @aahales:


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Episode 7: Hannah Anderson on Having Your Feet in Two Worlds (releasing 12/11)


My guest today lives in rural Appalachia -- probably not a spot most of my listeners live in. The temptation could be to skip this episode because you don’t live in a rural spot. Maybe you live in the city or suburbs or a small town. But here’s the thing -- no matter where we live, we have to figure out how to live in that place well and there’s lots of crossovers between Appalachia and the suburbs. So listen in.

My guest today on Episode 7 is Hannah Anderson. We talk about living as an outsider in a rural community, wisdom gained through discernment, her calling to her place and to her writing, and her new book, All That’s Good: Recovering the Lost Art of Discernment. Hannah lives with her pastor husband and three children in the Blue Ridge Mountains. She’s the author of Made for More, Humble Roots, and All that’s Good. In addition to writing and speaking, she also hosts The Persuasion Podcast with Erin Straza for Christ and Pop Culture

Stick around: You’ll find some gold nuggets to encourage you to stay rooted in your place -- whether you’re in the country, city, or suburbs. And at the end, you’ll have your one small step to help take all the things that matter into your ordinary, holy, life.

Hannah provided us some wonderful questions to help us in the ways of discernment:

--How would what I share (online) affect my real-life relationships?

--What is the point of correcting? Would it build the community?

--What would I say to this person if this person was in my kitchen? Proximitiy checks our tendencies.


This week remember to lighten up. Humor disarms. Try a family dance party to get out of your own head or using a self-deprecating joke. It’ll allow you to begin to empathize instead of using truth as a weapon.


Hannah’s website:


Persuasion Podcast:

Link to purchase Made for More:

Link to purchase Humble Roots:

Link to purchase All that’s Good:


Discernment simply means developing a taste for what’s good. --@sometimesalight on #FindingHolyPodcast

How does discernment equip us to navigate a broken, complicated world with confidence and joy? -- @sometimesalight #FindingHolyPodcast

Hannah Anderson talks about rural, working class Appalachia, the mistakes she’s made and how she’s practicing discernment on #FindingHolyPodcast:

“The nature of truth is communal.” Listen in to @sometimesalight on #FindingHolyPodcast:


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One more episode to come in Season 1!!

Episode 8: Sam Wheatley (pastor in NYC)


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